Bad advice

pkrfce9 · Oct 17,2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristy_Sea

I just wonder if it might be a good idea to get out of the very bottom buy ins..the ones that are really designed for people just figuring the game out- IF you've made an honest assessment of your ability and bankroll..and the only thing holding you back is the idea presented on the forum often that "you should beat level one to move up to level two etc", for the reasons discussed in earlier posts.

YES! I agree with your conclusions based on the foregoing discussions.

As I understand your earlier points, you are interested in improving something similar to a 'risk-adjusted rate of return'. I would agree from that perspective, a higher buy-in would quite likely yield a higher return to a better player. And yes, I would put you in the category of 'better player'.

Interesting discussion.

ol-stone-face · Oct 17,2006, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristy_Sea

I just realized that you were refering to my sample size on Stars. Completely fair, I didn't present ALL the information.

Exactly! How many did you play though? If you are talking like 50 SNG's a $5 you can't draw any conclusions from anything.
If you are a losing player after a thousand or so $5 SNG's then I find it hard to believe you would be a a long term winner at $55.

Kristy_Sea · Oct 17,2006, 03:33 PM

I think this is one of the sex related differences.

I was just interested in discussing what I personally thought was an interesting anomally, within my favourite hobby. Not looking for advice, you may have noticed I'm perfectly capable of developing an opinion.

I believe I specifically said "Interested to hear YOUR thoughts" and will now include YOUR experiences related to the different buy ins.

I think there is merit for both sides of the argument..but do not require personal help here..just spinning my wheels.

ryanghall · Oct 21,2006, 11:19 PM

Kristy,

As I've told people before, the variance in sit and gos (as well as most if not all forms of poker) is utterly mind boggling.

You can be a winning player at a level and lose over THOUSANDS of sit and gos. I'm not exaggerating. Obviously, the more you play the more you are likely to have an idea of your true return on investment, however you can never really know it for sure because by the time you have a reasonable sample of sit and gos (over 5K at least, which most people obviously never even get to), your game has completely changed by then anyway.

Having said all that, if you can win 100-130 buyins to the NEXT level up, you are properly rolled and you're *usually* good enough to move up, but eventually you will hit a ceiling where you have to plug leaks in your game to beat the next level.

Ryan

BBC Z · Oct 22,2006, 02:48 AM

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I was just interested in discussing what I personally thought was an interesting anomally,

In that case, what you found as an 'interesting anomoly' was just a burp of variance that means nothing to anyone.

Everyone seems to be telling you that, but you want to insist that you've stumbled onto the profound.

I have to say I enjoy telling you that you haven't.

Kristy_Sea · Oct 22,2006, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BBC Z

I have to say I enjoy telling you that you haven't.

Wow..are you the guy I told to pull his head out of his ass? If not you should look him up..you two would hit it off famously.

I'm not quite sure what I did to earn such a snotty remark almost a week after the post went dead; but I'll take it as penance. If memory serves your posts often serve only to fuel your ego while you put others down and I find you thoroughly obnoxious. If I haven't already told you that (earning your slap/post)-I am now.

Its a forum, I'm allowed to ask questions and have opinions and you are just as free not to read them. Go be king-of-the-world on someone else's time.