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Old Aug 08,2006, 08:41 AM   #1
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Do you keep betting 1/2 Limit (Tribeca) with lots of callers

Here is the hand history. It's one of those where I felt I was going to get run down no matter what I did. Do you keep betting or just give up. I hate to give players free draws at me. It's Tribeca so I know they are very loose (CNE loose from what I"m hearing). With a flop of 2 spades and 3 straightening cards how do you play it?

: Hand Start.
: Seat 1 : JQuam has $14.50
: Seat 2 : P J THE DJ has $71.25
: Seat 3 : TheZid has $104.50
: Seat 4 : zozek has $22
: Seat 5 : lollyman has $15
: Seat 6 : KaiWu has $85
: Seat 7 : Crawford999 has $15.64
: Seat 8 : xGandhi has $50.44
: Seat 9 : Acidjoe has $77.50
: KaiWu is the dealer.
: Crawford999 posted small blind.
: xGandhi posted big blind.
: Game [6893] started with 9 players.
: Dealing Hole Cards.
Seat 9 : Acidjoe has Ks Kd
: Acidjoe called $1 and raised $1
: JQuam folded.
: P J THE DJ called $2
: TheZid folded.
: zozek called $2
: lollyman folded.
: KaiWu called $2
: Crawford999 folded.
: xGandhi called $1
: Dealing flop. 3 players cold called 2 and the BB called the raise not good.
: Board cards [5s 8s 7h]
: xGandhi checked.
: Acidjoe bet $1
: P J THE DJ called $1
: zozek called $1
: KaiWu called $1
: xGandhi called $1
: Dealing turn.
: Board cards [5s 8s 7h Kc] <--- Hit my set
: xGandhi checked.
: Acidjoe bet $2
: P J THE DJ called $2
: zozek called $2
: KaiWu folded.
: xGandhi called $2
: Dealing river.
: Board cards [5s 8s 7h Kc 9h] <------ 4 to a straight on the board.
: xGandhi checked.
: Acidjoe bet $2 <------ do you bet here?
: P J THE DJ called $2
: zozek folded.
: xGandhi called $2 and raised $2
: Acidjoe called $2 <----- I know I"m beat but have to call
: P J THE DJ called $2
: Showdown!
: Seat 9 : Acidjoe63 has Ks Kd
: Seat 8 : xGandhi has 2d 6d
: xGandhi has Straight 98765
: Seat 2 : P J THE DJ has Jd Jh
: P J THE DJ has Pair: Jacks
: xGandhi wins $34.50 with Straight 98765
: Hand is over.


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Old Aug 08,2006, 09:12 AM   #2
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Re: Do you keep betting 1/2 Limit (Tribeca) with lots of callers

Hey Joe

Yea... I bet there, and call there, and call the guy a f*#king moron in my head.

Same thing (moron keeps calling) happened to me last night, I have AQ, raise from the button, BB re-raises, I call.

FLOP AK7rainbow

I bet, he calls

TURN: 4

I bet he calls

RIVER: J

I bet, he raises, I call

I show AQ, he shows JJ!

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Old Aug 08,2006, 09:50 AM   #3
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Re: Do you keep betting 1/2 Limit (Tribeca) with lots of callers

Ya, I'd bet too, as well I'd call the raise crossing my fingers that he made trips or 2 pair, but knowing the enevitable. the thing is with loose players they'll call and raise to the river with minimal hands, you just got shafted by some poor players dumb luck.
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Old Aug 08,2006, 10:42 AM   #4
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Re: Do you keep betting 1/2 Limit (Tribeca) with lots of callers

I'm not complaining about the beat. I shook my head at it, but in limit with a $10 pot pre flop he's not going anywhere. I probably wouldn't either. As the betting leader I was wondering if anyone else slows down or just keeps firing like I did. This wasn't meant to be a bad beat post, but a discussion on were to slow down if at all.
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Old Aug 08,2006, 12:19 PM   #5
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Re: Do you keep betting 1/2 Limit (Tribeca) with lots of callers

Hey Joe,

I would actually check. I saw that in a low-limit game like that, like you said nobody is going to fold when they have a straight possibility. Now, if it comes back as only a 2$ bet, I would call but if you see a bet and a raise, you can probably see that somebody has a straight. But I think everything from the pre-folp to the turn I would have done the same as you, maybe just a little different on the river.

That still blows tho, raised prefolp and called with 2-6, make sure he plays some more with you

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Old Aug 08,2006, 03:46 PM   #6
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Re: Do you keep betting 1/2 Limit (Tribeca) with lots of callers

I wasn't sure if I check call was the best option. I wanted to hear from others. When the card flopped I was more than not happy. Being the limit it was I didn't give up the betting lead, but was sure someone had an A6s or some other crap, the 6 2 suited did surprise me tho.
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Old Aug 08,2006, 06:40 PM   #7
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Just check and call one bet. Someone almost certainly has the straight.
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Old Aug 08,2006, 08:06 PM   #8
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I guess today is bonuswhoring gone completely wrong.Â* After being continuously run down all day, I ended up with about a $200.00 loss while chasing a $300.00 bonus.Â* Oh well, get it back tomorrow.Â* Fortunately I was up but was waiting for the sky to fall as I was running about 9 BB./100 as a win rate.Â* Now it's down to a respectable 2bb/100.Â*

Watts:Â* Thanks for the input I knew in my heart someone had the straight, I guess I gotta look past what I want and realize the actual situation.Â* But I see so many bad players on tribeca, where I have AK on a 4 flush board with k high and these guys are raising with KJo no diamond. I guess at this point it's just better to check call than assume they are all idiots.
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Re: Do you keep betting 1/2 Limit (Tribeca) with lots of callers

Gandhi is getting 9:1 on his call. Of course he calls.

Check the river 3 way. Bet 2 way. You were 4 way.
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Re: Do you keep betting 1/2 Limit (Tribeca) with lots of callers

xgandhi played his hand correctly.

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Old Aug 13,2006, 03:38 PM   #11
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Re: Do you keep betting 1/2 Limit (Tribeca) with lots of callers

Gandhi played his hand like a typical low limit donk.
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Re: Do you keep betting 1/2 Limit (Tribeca) with lots of callers

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Gandhi played his hand like a typical low limit donk.
Of course he did. I am at turning stone and the same donks just play for more money. I'm watching guys chasing gutshots capped on the flop where they actually 3 bet cold. Amazing.
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Check call, it's 1/2 limit, these people all any draw so that probably filled someone's straight
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Old Aug 15,2006, 03:41 PM   #14
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Re: Do you keep betting 1/2 Limit (Tribeca) with lots of callers

This hand is played perfectly on all streets. You are losing out on a ton of value by not betting the river, esp. 4 way. Remember bet calling only costs you $4, despite the illusion that it costs you the whole pot. You are only beat by a straight and almost any pair is calling you in this game.

Played perfectly. Next time try not to get rivered :P
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Re: Do you keep betting 1/2 Limit (Tribeca) with lots of callers

I try not to get rivered but it happens. Like I said I'm not complaining, I like playing these guys. You win some and lose some. I was looking for other people's opinions on whether to check call bet call bet raise etc. The input has given me some additional ammo I might use to mix my game. Tho next time I probably check call I still think betting out isn't that bad.
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