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Mar 23,2006, 03:15 PM
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#1 | | Full PFC Member
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| Flopped the nuts (no trapping)
0.25/0.50 NL at PokerRoom.Â* BB finally gets to me and I post, picking up  . UTG and SB both call, and I take the free flop.
Flop comes  - the nuts!Â* Board isn't scary, but I usually don't slow-play and have no reads on any opponents, so I lead out with $1.50.Â* UTG re-raises to $4 and SB calls.Â* Again, no slow-playing, so I re-raise to $12.Â* UTG pushes for another $44.80 and SB folds.Â* I obviously call, so the pot is $104.30
UTG shows  .Â* This confused me a bit, since it wasn't even a big pair, but ok.
Turn is  , the river is  , and MHIG.
The SB claims to have folded JJ, and still had $30.Â* Should I have done anything different to try to keep him around (not re-raising to $12)?Â* I've gotten so use to not trapping (since I've opened myself up to too many draws - which all hit) that I'm trying to return a bit more to "value" poker (and getting more money in the pot).
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Mar 23,2006, 03:26 PM
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| Re: Flopped the nuts (no trapping)
NH. I'd be happy that one of them was bad enough to get broke with 1 pair, it's pretty unlikely you'd get them both all-in. Playing this hand fast is good because they might think their hands are good on the flop but half the deck is a scare card to them and will kill your action.. Good luck trying to stack someone with TT on a 3457 board for example like if you had waited until the turn.
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Mar 23,2006, 03:28 PM
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#3 | | It's phonetic! | Re: Flopped the nuts (no trapping)
Should you keep him around?
I think it's obvious the guy would have folded on the turn, and this dude was willing to get all his money in now? I say you did as well as you could... I wouldn't complain about 120x the BB with 6-7
Mark
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Mar 23,2006, 03:30 PM
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| Re: Flopped the nuts (no trapping)
Well, you won $104 pot, so I say NO, you played it right. Nice Hand!!
If he did fold JJ, then he's either too skilled for .25/.50 or a Flaming Donk.
I sure someone with disagree me, but I'll live. (and learn)
JohnnieH
ps...The Flaming Donks...good band name?
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Mar 23,2006, 03:31 PM
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| Re: Flopped the nuts (no trapping) Quote: |
Originally Posted by SirWatts Good luck trying to stack someone with TT on a 3457 board for example like if you had waited until the turn. | Good point. Quote: |
Originally Posted by DrTyore I wouldn't complain about 120x the BB with 6-7 | Definitely not complaining - it's a real nice way to start a session  . Â*I've just gotten to the point now where I'm questioning my winning hands (instead o just the losers) to see where I can improve (although this hand appears - in retrospect - to be a bad example).
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Mar 23,2006, 03:32 PM
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| Re: Flopped the nuts (no trapping) Quote: |
Originally Posted by JohnnieH If he did fold JJ, then he's either too skilled for .25/.50 or a Flaming Donk.Â* | I'd probably fold JJ with that action, so I guess I'll accept the new nickname
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Mar 23,2006, 03:49 PM
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| Re: Flopped the nuts (no trapping) Quote: |
Originally Posted by beanie42 Quote: |
Originally Posted by JohnnieH If he did fold JJ, then he's either too skilled for .25/.50 or a Flaming Donk.Â* | I'd probably fold JJ with that action, so I guess I'll accept the new nickname  | I probably would too.
As for how you played the hand - I don't think you could have done anything to get the third player to donate more money. NH!
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Mar 24,2006, 08:16 AM
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| Re: Flopped the nuts (no trapping)
I'm putting the SB in the "flaming donk" category...not for folding in the face of a bet, raise, re-raise, re-raise all-in, but for not raising preflop to get heads up with the limping UTG player.
JJ should have wanted the BB out...and likely could have had him out for a $2.00 preflop raise
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Mar 24,2006, 08:30 AM
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#9 | | Two time Royal Cup Champs | Re: Flopped the nuts (no trapping) Quote: |
Originally Posted by DrTyore Should you keep him around?Â*
Â* I think it's obvious the guy would have folded on the turn, and this dude was willing to get all his money in now?Â* I say you did as well as you could... I wouldn't complain about 120x the BB withÂ* 6-7
Mark | yes, it's certainly no 7-8 but vnh Trevor....can't say I'd play it any other way!
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Mar 24,2006, 04:47 PM
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| Re: Flopped the nuts (no trapping)
Not slow playing is the way to go cuz I get burned all the time slow playing. If I was you I'd just sit back and enjoy the winning hand. It's not often you rack up that big a pot with 6 7
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