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Jan 22,2010, 02:49 AM
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#1 | | #bonking
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| FTP Gets Rid of Short Stacks
FTP just increased the min buy-in from 20bb to 35bb which pretty much eliminates short-stacking strategies. Good for FTP.
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Jan 22,2010, 03:05 AM
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#2 | | Banned
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damn it this suxs.
buying in with min FTW.
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Jan 22,2010, 09:21 AM
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#3 | | Mr. Wonderful
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Honestly, I don't see why the big fuss and everyone crying for, you just have to adapt to them a lil different strategy wise, mind you I don't play cash games on a regular business and I do see some points you all have, but I don't think it is a big of a deal IMO.
(for the record, I always bought in for the maximum if I do dabble in them)
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Jan 22,2010, 12:05 PM
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#4 | | Full PFC Member
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35bb is still too low. It should be at least 50bb. Hate short stackers.
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Jan 22,2010, 12:06 PM
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#5 | | Banned
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sounds like some of you guys that buy in at max, dont like getting prawned by the short stack strategizers  | |
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Jan 22,2010, 12:09 PM
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#6 | | PFC Asshole and Commander
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meh, short stackers dont bother me as most of them have no clue how to play shortstack poker profitablly.
Guess my next tilting session won't be on FTP.
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Jan 22,2010, 12:12 PM
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#7 | | Banned
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Originally Posted by Hobbes  meh, short stackers dont bother me as most of them have no clue how to play shortstack poker profitablly.
Guess my next tilting session won't be on FTP. | your max vs my short stack, anytime hobbes | |
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Jan 22,2010, 01:46 PM
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#8 | | #bonking
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Originally Posted by derrickone 35bb is still too low. It should be at least 50bb. Hate short stackers. | True, but most profitable short stackers are leaving the games once they hit 40bb and very few of them are playing since the change. Playing a 35bb strategy effectively is much more difficult than playing a 20bb strategy. I don't think pushbot poker is still profitable at 35bb due to risk-reward. I assume they all went to other sites.
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Jan 22,2010, 01:46 PM
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#9 | | #bonking
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Originally Posted by Hobbes meh, short stackers dont bother me as most of them have no clue how to play shortstack poker profitablly.
Guess my next tilting session won't be on FTP. | That's not true at all online. Many players make a good living playing the standard 20bb strategy.
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Jan 22,2010, 01:49 PM
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#10 | | #bonking
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Originally Posted by philliivey Honestly, I don't see why the big fuss and everyone crying for, you just have to adapt to them a lil different strategy wise, mind you I don't play cash games on a regular business and I do see some points you all have, but I don't think it is a big of a deal IMO.
(for the record, I always bought in for the maximum if I do dabble in them) | Well, you can't play proper deep stack poker if you are 150-200bb deep and someone is 20bb deep. So it is nice that it has been changed somewhat by FTP.
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Jan 22,2010, 01:55 PM
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#11 | | Looking for a coach
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Originally Posted by GTA Poker FTP just increased the min buy-in from 20bb to 35bb which pretty much eliminates short-stacking strategies. Good for FTP. | They've added the new "Shallow" tables.
I'd rather play deep stack but...
Some of the most fishy tables are the shallow tables...
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Jan 22,2010, 04:50 PM
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#12 | | #bonking
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Originally Posted by ReefAquarium They've added the new "Shallow" tables.
I'd rather play deep stack but...
Some of the most fishy tables are the shallow tables... | Likely, if all the shortstackers are sitting at 20-40bb trying to use their previous strategies which don't work without full stacks at the table.
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Feb 01,2010, 01:17 PM
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#13 | | Poker Wins = Potato Heads | Quote:
Originally Posted by epic_donk your max vs my short stack, anytime hobbes | bwahahahaha! Please, make sure to post the place and time so we can all watch the hilarity of you getting your ass kicked.
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Feb 01,2010, 02:07 PM
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The problem with short stacks is that the online sites have fostered an eviroment that has allowed them to flourish with rakeback and vip programs that reward them so heavily. Quote:
Originally Posted by epic_donk sounds like some of you guys that buy in at max, dont like getting prawned by the short stack strategizers | you cant "prawn" someone as a shortstacker. by playing as a shortstacker you implicitly recognize a lack of skill. theres nothing morally wrong with being a shortstacker, and theres nothing wrong with taking advantage of an unfortunate loophole allowed by the online sites. but dont put on airs. the parasite has to live too, but nobody is gonna recognize the fly on the elephant as equals.
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Feb 01,2010, 02:21 PM
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#15 | | Looking for a coach
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Originally Posted by PokerKai The problem with short stacks is that the online sites have fostered an eviroment that has allowed them to flourish with rakeback and vip programs that reward them so heavily.
you cant "prawn" someone as a shortstacker. by playing as a shortstacker you implicitly recognize a lack of skill. theres nothing morally wrong with being a shortstacker, and theres nothing wrong with taking advantage of an unfortunate loophole allowed by the online sites. but dont put on airs. the parasite has to live too, but nobody is gonna recognize the fly on the elephant as equals. | Agreed,
Sites *love* short stackers.
They make more money from someone short stacking 18 tables than someone full stacking 9.
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