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Old Jan 04,2005, 01:42 PM   #1
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A hand from the WRGPT, What do you do?

I'm delt Kh Qh in the BB. No reads on anyone. Blinds 300/600, Ante 200. I've played about 5 hands the entire tourney if anyone else is paying attention....

Heres my reasoning..

Preflop: KQs good hand but I dont want to raise with poor position on future rounds so lets see the flop. If it sucks I get out cheap. I'd say the button has any random hand and the UTG limper probably has a pocket pair or AJs+.

Flop: Hmm good flop, lets see what preflop limper boy wants to do. He bets like anyone probably would do. I check raise the pot. If hes got nothing I should take it there. I figure if he calls I'm probably beat.

Turn: He called. Hmm. I check to him because I dont want to risk my tournament with KQs and he strangely checks. I discount the backdoor draw.. The players in this tourney are going to be more educated that random online ones (given the play over email format)..

River: I pray that he checks it down but alas doesnt. He moves all-in and it's the tournament for me to call.

What do you do?

Did I blow it with a lack of action on the turn? 8k into that 20K pot wouldn't defend my hand in any sense..

One thing I have noticed during the tourney.. Big pocket pair players love to limp in EP.

! Table c17, Hand 79, Day 86

! BBC_Z folds
+-+----------------------------+--------+--------+------+----+--------+
|#| Name |Bankroll| Action |Status|Pot#|Pot Size|
+-+----------------------------+--------+--------+------+----+--------+
1| Stefan Dios | 6525 | 200 |folded| | |
2| Ted Marshall | 6325 | 200 |folded| | |
3| Andrew Taylor | 7475 | 200 |folded| | |
4|D Marilyn Anderson | 15950 | 800 |folded| | |
5| Chaos Theory | 25250 | 500 |folded| | |
6|> BBC_Z | 10450 | 8900 |folded| | |
7| Richard Rognlie | 39375 | 200 |folded| | |
8| R. Brown | 0 | 22625 |all-in| | |
9| Dennis Krein | 36225 | 200 |folded| | |
10| Ketan Mayer-Patel | 40825 | 200 |folded| | |
+-+----------------------------+--------+--------+------+----+--------+
! History of this hand:
! 01/03/05 07:53:50! Dealing a new hand
! 01/03/05 07:53:50! Everyone antes $200
! 01/03/05 07:53:50! Chaos Theory blinds $300
! 01/03/05 07:53:50! BBC_Z blinds $600
! 01/03/05 08:01:33! Richard Rognlie folds
! 01/03/05 08:05:19! R. Brown calls
! 01/03/05 10:36:21! Dennis Krein folds
! 01/03/05 10:36:21! Ketan Mayer-Patel folds
! 01/03/05 11:40:06! Stefan Dios folds
! 01/03/05 11:40:06! Ted Marshall folds
! 01/03/05 13:33:54! Andrew Taylor folds
! 01/03/05 13:51:48! Marilyn Anderson calls
! 01/03/05 13:51:48! Chaos Theory folds
! 01/03/05 17:22:40! BBC_Z checks

! 01/03/05 17:22:40! Pot right ($4100), flopping/dealing/drawing cards
! 01/03/05 17:22:40! 3 players
! 01/03/05 17:22:40! Flopped cards: 5h 5c Qd
! 01/03/05 17:27:14! BBC_Z checks
! 01/03/05 17:33:36! R. Brown bets $2000
! 01/04/05 06:43:41! Marilyn Anderson folds
! 01/04/05 07:45:45! BBC_Z raises $6100
! 01/04/05 08:34:54! R. Brown calls

! 01/04/05 08:34:54! Pot right ($20300), flopping/dealing/drawing cards
! 01/04/05 08:34:54! 2 players
! 01/04/05 08:34:54! Flopped card: 3d
! 01/04/05 09:09:35! BBC_Z checks
! 01/04/05 09:22:25! R. Brown checks

! 01/04/05 09:22:25! Pot right ($20300), flopping/dealing/drawing cards
! 01/04/05 09:22:25! 2 players
! 01/04/05 09:22:25! Flopped card: 10d
! 01/04/05 09:50:51! BBC_Z checks
! 01/04/05 11:04:39! R. Brown bets $13725 and is all in

Here's your chance to tell me I suck, don't blow it
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Old Jan 04,2005, 02:13 PM   #2
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A hand from the WRGPT, What do you do?

I have a rule of thumb that If I'm going to put over half my stack in, I may as well put the whole thing in. You were committing yourself at the flop without position. I would say the line you took, you should have pushed in on the check raise. That way there's no guessing games at the turn or river.
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Old Jan 04,2005, 04:53 PM   #3
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Yea I would have pushed in on the re-raise to try and bump out a hand like 10-10 or something. Did you end up calling?
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Old Jan 04,2005, 06:16 PM   #4
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6|> BBC_Z | 10450 | 8900 |folded| | |
sinc: To answer your question, he folded. See quote above.


Well I've been in this same situation before BBC. lol I tend to side with magi here. If you committed half your stack on this hand, a push at the checkraise point might have made him fold. Unless he's got a higher pair, or hit trip fives. Tough call.

Did he show his cards? Tell us, tell us. lol (my gut here says Ax, but he could be on a pure steal after your check)


Also, the email format you mentioned Is that a newsgroup doing that? And is someone actually dealing the hand out somewhere live, and a bunch of people are emailing/posting their decisions back and forth based on this
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Old Jan 05,2005, 12:08 AM   #5
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A hand from the WRGPT, What do you do?

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Tough call.
Very tough because if I bust out, thats 86 days of play down the tubes

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Did he show his cards? Tell us, tell us. lol (my gut here says Ax, but he could be on a pure steal after your check)
No show.. I told him he could have it with his quad 5's..


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Also, the email format you mentioned Is that a newsgroup doing that? And is someone actually dealing the hand out somewhere live, and a bunch of people are emailing/posting their decisions back and forth based on this
It's the World Rec Gambling Poker Tournament.. Every year in like August or September they crank it up.. (and takes about a year to win) .. It's a server that deals out hands and you send commands via email.. It's strictly virtual..
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Here's your chance to tell me I suck, don't blow it
u suck

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Old Jan 05,2005, 12:53 AM   #7
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A hand from the WRGPT, What do you do?

And I thought 5 or 6 hours was a long tournament. lmao You could actually have a player die during that one. A car accident, sickness etc. And all you would see is ...
(seat 3 folds blinds, no response to emails) hehe

Interesting concept though.
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