ivey, lindgren, benyamine, flack, greenstein owe millions to full tilt

compuease · Feb 03,2012, 04:43 PM

Thought it had been kinda quiet in here for a couple of days, wondered where the next firestorm might flare up...

trigs · Feb 03,2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard~

does that mean you're planning to screw someone over?

no, it means you don't pay back debts you owe. thought that was obvious...??

EDIT: who knows? if i owe someone else, you just won't pay me. definitely not worth the risk. sorry if you don't understand my reasoning here.

trigs · Feb 03,2012, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by compuease

Thought it had been kinda quiet in here for a couple of days, wondered where the next firestorm might flare up...

sorry comp. don't lock it just yet.

Richard~ · Feb 03,2012, 04:51 PM

a bit more on topic, I thought that the reason full tilt was never taken to court for the scandal was because they operate outside the usa. am I wrong about that?

Richard~ · Feb 03,2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by trigs

no, it means you don't pay back debts you owe. thought that was obvious...??

I settle the problems and debts I have with the people involved. Now you're just needlessly accusing me of being dishonest

kwsteve · Feb 03,2012, 04:53 PM

If you owe someone a legal debt and you don't pay you should go on the deadbeat list.

trigs · Feb 03,2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard~

a bit more on topic, I thought that the reason full tilt was never taken to court for the scandal was because they operate outside the usa. am I wrong about that?

is this true? wait, aren't they (i.e. the owners - bitar, ferguson, lederer, etc.) still possibly going to court?

trigs · Feb 03,2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard~

I settle the problems and debts I have with the people involved. Now you're just needlessly accusing me of being dishonest

wtf? so then why shouldn't greenstein et al pay their debt back? man you're making my head spin.

i'm done. you win. still never lending you anything. nothing personal.

well...actually i guess technically it is personal, but i don't think less of you.

Richard~ · Feb 03,2012, 04:58 PM

let me put it like this, the moment the full tilt owners are accountable for what they did to the full tilt players I believe greenstein should pay them back their money

Cerberus · Feb 03,2012, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Milo

Wrong on so many levels . . .

Barry owes Full Tilt $"X". Regardless of who will eventually own it (Tapie does not yet own any part of FTP, they have just made an offer), this debt owed. Whether he pays it to the DoJ, the Receiver, or puts in escrow until things are resolved, he does not haver any moral authority to withold payment.

That being said, Tapie Group can GTFO re: asking for the $$$.

This. I highly doubt he actually has the money lying around to begin with, especially with talking about setting up a payment plan with the DOJ, if it came down to that. Either way, not taking a marker from him should I ever btp or vekked it up and get to that level.

Muddguts · Feb 03,2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by djgolfcan

I will be e-mailing pokerstars that if this is the type of person they endorse, then I will not be playing there any more.
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Then who will keep the brags, beats and variance sub forum alive?

philliivey · Feb 03,2012, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by djgolfcan

PokerStars should drop Greenstein like a bad habit. I will be e-mailing pokerstars that if this is the type of person they endorse, then I will not be playing there any more.

I'll switch to playing live.

lololol, no you won't.

philliivey · Feb 03,2012, 06:11 PM

Sooooo proud of trigs for this thread.

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Also I am surprised at Richard's post (s) about the court thing, cause he is right.

Milo · Feb 03,2012, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard~

I settle the problems and debts I have with the people involved.

EXACTLY THE POINT.

Barry owes money to Full Tilt, and so he should settle up . . . NOW.

Milo · Feb 03,2012, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard~

let me put it like this, the moment the full tilt owners are accountable for what they did to the full tilt players I believe greenstein should pay them back their money

That is not what you said in your other post that I quoted above. Try to remain consistant. It makes debate easier.