Chugs

Magi, talking about goals at the start of the year got me thinking. I used that idea to set a goal of earning enough playing NL tournies to go to the CPT. Which i barely managed to do.


So i've set a new goal with the aim of improving my game. In general i'm not a large time player but on an entirely net basis i'm a plus player in my results, even if only marginally. Those are results that are actual and not just dillusions, i decided to semi audit my neteller results and the like. I do have one nemesis POKERSTARS.


I contacted pokerstars and got a full ledger of my financial transactions with them, and was shocked to see how big a looser i was on that site. It's fair to say that my results would be a lot better overall if i had never met this site.


so my new goal is to bring my play at pokerstars upto a Net Zero. Since my first ever desposit there i've lost approx. $2250 on that site.

So while i will likely continue to play other sites, i want to convert this specific drain on my bankroll into a contributor. I realize that it would likely be wiser for me to simply write off the site, and focus my energy on easier games, but i play poker for the challenge and to improve my skill, and achieving this goal will only come as a result of improving my play.

I will NOT do daily updates but if i hit any major milestones, towards this challenge 1/2 way, complete etc... i'll share it.

Also if anyone has any pokerstars specific tips, please do share

all_aces

gl to you Chugs. Pokerstars general tips... in NL SNG's I don't think it's possible to win without bluff check-raising a flop or a turn at least once or twice. Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but many of those Stars SNG specialists do not make things easy. Can I get much more specific than this? Not really... you'll know when the time's right. With a good aggressive game (especially shorthanded) SNG's are the way to build a bankroll slowly but surely at that site. Mix up your game, and you'll win more often than you lose.

And, try to go on a rush at the 30/60 tables. ;-) Again, good luck.

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Chugs

That's it i give up after 2 days.

I just can't stand stars ring, i cry uncle ... i'm a fish and a donkey and just don't have the damn skill to beat them. I have a shit load of leaks in my game but i don't care there is no way i should be losing to the extent that i am.

I even went and extracted any hands i played questionable and lost (and the ones i won in the same manner) ... i still was a complete dog.

I quit, i'm going to go put some time back in at pacific and at some point when i can generate a 10,000 bankroll i'll try some $0.50/$1 at pokerstars (for me that may be a sustainable bankroll of 10000BB for me on stars), until then i'm swearing it off.

I'll still dabble in the odd tourney, but my god i just aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

magithighs

No sense beating your head against the wall. I went through this a few years back at Paradise. When I found I was averaging around 3% hands won over 300 hands, several times in a row, I felt something was wrong. I left, and later found Party. It's been party ever since.

You mention that you have many leaks, but shouldn't be losing as much as you do. I suspect it's your style that isn't fitting well with the stars ring players. I find the games there to be very SLOW and it's really easy for impatience to set in. I mean slow in the sense of slow play, small pots, many more 2 way, 3 way pots. The game is more about isolation and selective aggression and folding marginal hands like AJ in the BB when it's been raised by an EP player. Ooops, I may have started another thread -- plz it's just a suggestion not a hard and fast rule. This is a huge generalization so it's not meat as advice, but more to let you know my general experience on their ring games.

It's trully amazing how much a minor leak costs, in terms of not winning a pot that was yours or paying off another player. I like your approach to stay off the site. I highly recommend replaying the hands in Pokertracker with the cards face up, noting strict position guidlines for play. You'll be much stronger for it.

Cheers
Magi

P.S. For the life of me, I can't beat the 2/4 short handed game there. I swear they won't let me win. I can beat the 1/2, 3/6, 5/10 short game, but not 2/4. Go figure. I still try now and then, but alas I get taken to the cleaners on 2/4.

P.S.S. When I turned off all the avatars I started winning much more. I'm not sure why, but it works for me.