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Nov 27,2008, 12:54 AM
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#1 | | Wannabe a Xuan Liu!
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| Online Cheaters at 60 Minutes this Sunday
The long-awaited story on the AB/UB online scandal will finally be aired on 60 Minutes this Sunday at 7 PM ET. Quote: Sunday, Nov. 30, 2008
THE CHEATERS - 60 MINUTES and The Washington Post reveal how online poker players suspecting cheating were forced to successfully ferret out the cheaters themselves. That's because managers of the mostly-unregulated $18 billion Internet gambling industry failed to respond to their complaints.
| Don't click on the following if you prefer to wait until Sunday:
- 60 Minutes/Washington Post Joint Investigation Questions Honesty, Security Of Gambling Sites
- Cheating Gamblers Exposed video
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Nov 27,2008, 02:27 AM
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#2 | | alces alces |
WTF? They cut my scene!
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Nov 27,2008, 09:32 AM
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#3 | | Peace | Quote:
Originally Posted by moose  WTF? They cut my scene! | Small fish, big pond. Sorry moose.
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Nov 27,2008, 11:20 AM
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#4 | | Mr. Wonderful
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could be the 1st step for the end of online poker and pokerstars.
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Nov 27,2008, 01:24 PM
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#5 | | #bonking
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Originally Posted by philliivey could be the 1st step for the end of online poker and pokerstars. | lol
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Nov 27,2008, 01:47 PM
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#6 | | CPF Arcade Master
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It is such a shame that the US has classified Poker as a game of luck and lumped it in with sports betting, rather than seeing it for the skill game it is, and making it legal to play for money, much like it is legal to play backgammon and bridge for money. The industry would be worth much more money if it was legal, and the customers could have the satisfaction of knowing that as a regulated industry your money would be a fair bit safer than it is now. On top of that the tax dollars taken in by the government would be enormous.
Then again, I guess we'd then need to beat both the rake and the tax to make a profit. 
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Nov 27,2008, 02:49 PM
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#7 | | Mr. Wonderful
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no really, as soon as this airs all the wack jobs will come out trying to shut online poker down cause of no regulation and blah blah blah and with pokerstars being the biggest and best known they will be the 1st to be "under the gun",.
After next december even stars won't last, they will be the next g.m. Quote:
Originally Posted by GTA Poker lol |
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Nov 27,2008, 05:02 PM
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#8 | | Peace |
This will neither help nor hurt on-line poker. The undecideds will not get enough from this report to make a rational decision one way or the other, imo. Considering it starts off telling people that playing poker on-line is illegal, when there is nothing in the statutes that makes it so (in the USA).
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Nov 27,2008, 06:25 PM
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#9 | | PFC Asshole and Commander
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Originally Posted by philliivey could be the 1st step for the end of online poker and pokerstars. | Ya cause cheating doesn't happen at B&M cardrooms 
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Nov 29,2008, 05:34 PM
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#10 | | Full PFC Member
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what channel is it on? and what time?
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Nov 29,2008, 06:45 PM
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#11 | | PFC Asshole and Commander
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Originally Posted by NoVeLTeK what channel is it on? and what time? | CBS Sunday @ 7PM Eastern
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Nov 29,2008, 09:00 PM
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#12 | | tu ne cede malis
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Originally Posted by Hobbes CBS Sunday @ 7PM Eastern |
Which it has been for what, like 40 years? | |
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Nov 30,2008, 08:37 AM
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#13 | | Full PFC Member
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Originally Posted by philliivey
no really, as soon as this airs all the wack jobs will come out trying to shut online poker down cause of no regulation and blah blah blah and with pokerstars being the biggest and best known they will be the 1st to be "under the gun",.
After next december even stars won't last, they will be the next g.m. |
Ask yourself what this show will do in terms of actually changing anyone's beliefs. Whack jobs who think the world is rigged against them already believe that. Moral crusaders are already crusading.
Maybe it will be mildly interesting for some people, but in terms of having any impact I do not see much, just as one after another "investigative reports" on various forms of telemarketing fraud or repair shops that defraud have a similar impact on their respective industries, namely none.
The default of most people who are unfamiliar with the industry is that it is filled with cheaters and scams, so how will a 60 minutes show that is unbalanced on the issue change anything? Guess I am not following the logic from a routine biased expose to the "OMGZORRS END OF WORLD"
I will be happy to book action at even money taking the side that "Stars will last" to the end of next year. Would be a bigger donation to me then the various Obama wagers were :P
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Nov 30,2008, 09:05 AM
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#14 | | Mr. Wonderful
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stars will be around this time next year, it's after that you might see something happen. Quote:
Originally Posted by Monteroy Ask yourself what this show will do in terms of actually changing anyone's beliefs. Whack jobs who think the world is rigged against them already believe that. Moral crusaders are already crusading.
Maybe it will be mildly interesting for some people, but in terms of having any impact I do not see much, just as one after another "investigative reports" on various forms of telemarketing fraud or repair shops that defraud have a similar impact on their respective industries, namely none.
The default of most people who are unfamiliar with the industry is that it is filled with cheaters and scams, so how will a 60 minutes show that is unbalanced on the issue change anything? Guess I am not following the logic from a routine biased expose to the "OMGZORRS END OF WORLD"
I will be happy to book action at even money taking the side that "Stars will last" to the end of next year. Would be a bigger donation to me then the various Obama wagers were :P |
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Nov 30,2008, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by philliivey stars will be around this time next year, it's after that you might see something happen. |
Ah I see - "you might see something happen"
I will keep that in mind. Thanks.
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