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Old Feb 27,2007, 02:51 PM   #1
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Small pairs vs. LAGs

Any thoughts on these hands? Game is limit 6max and very aggressive. In both cases, villain is super lag (maybe 75/50/5) either on tilt or just happy to be laggy and is going to showdown regardless. So playing small pairs becomes tough since there's basically no folding from our opponent and just about any hand has outs. Basically I'm looking to get chips in on less threatening boards (making his bluffs cost more), and avoiding the ultra ugly coordinated flops (or at least getting to SD cheaply).

Hand 1:

POKERSTARS GAME #8643110998: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($3/$6) - 2007/02/26 - 21:07:13 (ET)
Table 'Cepheus' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: rags2riches8 ($116 in chips)
Seat 2: ScoobyD ($345 in chips)
Seat 3: idodouc ($178 in chips)
Seat 4: hyperexel ($97 in chips)
Seat 5: 222BC ($335.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Beerfest ($169 in chips)
ScoobyD: posts small blind $1
idodouc: posts big blind $3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ScoobyD [2s 2h]
hyperexel: folds
222BC: folds
Beerfest: folds
rags2riches8: folds
ScoobyD: raises $3 to $6
idodouc: raises $3 to $9
ScoobyD: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [Th 7c 7s]
ScoobyD: bets $3
idodouc: raises $3 to $6
ScoobyD: raises $3 to $9
idodouc: raises $3 to $12
Betting is capped
ScoobyD: calls $3
*** TURN *** [Th 7c 7s] [6h]
ScoobyD: checks
idodouc: bets $6
ScoobyD: calls $6
*** RIVER *** [Th 7c 7s 6h] [5d]
ScoobyD: checks
idodouc: bets $6
ScoobyD: calls $6

Hand 2:

POKERSTARS GAME #8643234272: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($3/$6) - 2007/02/26 - 21:14:43 (ET)
Table 'Cepheus' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: rags2riches8 ($79 in chips)
Seat 2: ScoobyD ($258 in chips)
Seat 3: idodouc ($231 in chips)
Seat 4: hyperexel ($167 in chips)
Seat 5: 222BC ($376.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Beerfest ($207 in chips)
Beerfest: posts small blind $1
rags2riches8: posts big blind $3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ScoobyD [5s 5c]
ScoobyD: raises $3 to $6
idodouc: raises $3 to $9
hyperexel: folds
222BC: folds
Beerfest: folds
rags2riches8: folds
ScoobyD: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [Jc 3h 3d]
ScoobyD: bets $3
idodouc: raises $3 to $6
ScoobyD: raises $3 to $9
idodouc: raises $3 to $12
Betting is capped
ScoobyD: calls $3
*** TURN *** [Jc 3h 3d] [Qd]
ScoobyD: bets $6
idodouc: raises $6 to $12
ScoobyD: calls $6
*** RIVER *** [Jc 3h 3d Qd] [9d]
ScoobyD: checks
idodouc: bets $6
ScoobyD: calls $6

In general, with small pairs (and to a lesser extent big aces), I love to see paired boards, since it's much less likely to have hit my opponent. But hand one has me thinking that maybe there's a better line since there's going to be some horrendous turn and/or rivers that essentially kill our hand (if we get counterfeited). Hand 2 I'm more or less OK with (not sure about the turn lead, but I was fairly confident I was ahead on the flop).

Or does anyone just take a completely passive line by rope a doping here (unless we hit a set or straight)?

Does anyone even consider folding these marginal hands since we know villain is almost always going to showdown here?
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Old Feb 27,2007, 03:22 PM   #2
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Hand 1: i like your line here, i probably don't 3 bet the flop, and judging by this guys style of play i call down.
Hand 2: i definately think you're ahead on the flop, so get it capped, once you lead on the turn and he raises, with the Q and J on board you can be pretty sure you're beat here, and save yourself the two bets.
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