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Old Oct 11,2008, 09:46 PM   #16
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What percent of players use softeare do you think? I've played online for almost 5 years now, and have never used anything. I was recently chatting with some yak, and he was quoting various PT stats, and when I told him I didn't use PT, he was shocked.

I don't know...if you pay attention, make notes, won't you learn as much about your opponents? Other than hand farming, what is the real advantage, if you play for ahobby like me? I guess I've just figured I've done well enough without it. I'm playing on my original $100 buying from 2004, and I can't see what the software will tell me that I don't learn from observing. Can it give you info that tells you a guy will not fold a flush draw, no matter what the pot odds?

What am I missing?
I think you're missing a lot by not using tracking software like HEM or PT.
I take a lot of notes too, but the stats are extremely valuable.
For a long time I only used it as a tracking for myself, to look at my stats and what hands might be leaks for me. Getting PAHUD to go with PT really took my game to the next level, imo.
As for what % of players - I would guess at least 80-90% of regular (winning) players use something. They really do pay for themselves.
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Old Oct 14,2008, 09:32 AM   #17
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I think the key here is to get these tracker tools and really exploit them. Like previously posted 80-90% of regulars out there are using some sort of datamining/stats I use them to exploit their programmed level of thinking.

A lot of players who multi-table really only use stats programs to figure out hand ranges/etc. If you can identify those people you can then exploit them as you have a certain image based on stats and pick up easy money.

Remember a lot of players these days have learned the game just on the mathematics and probability but not real experience. It's the experience at the end of the day that will help you make those hero calls with bottom pair
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Old Oct 15,2008, 03:33 PM   #18
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I think the key here is to get these tracker tools and really exploit them. Like previously posted 80-90% of regulars out there are using some sort of datamining/stats I use them to exploit their programmed level of thinking.

A lot of players who multi-table really only use stats programs to figure out hand ranges/etc. If you can identify those people you can then exploit them as you have a certain image based on stats and pick up easy money.

Remember a lot of players these days have learned the game just on the mathematics and probability but not real experience. It's the experience at the end of the day that will help you make those hero calls with bottom pair
If you're exploiting these other players regularly, wouldn't that become part of your stats too?

And maybe it's 'cause I'm a limidonk, but bottom pair is for value betting. A hero call is with Queen high
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