.25/.50 NL - 8 handed
MP limps
Hero ($47.50) in CO with - Raises to $2.25
Button ($73.75) calls - no reads, but above the buy-in, so either lucky or decent
Flop I hate the ace, but I can't just give up
Hero bets $4
Button calls Grrr - he has the ace - done with the hand
Turn
Hero checks
Button checks
River BINGO! Suck-out.Â* Pot is currently $13.25
Hero bets $6.50
Button raises to $13 Huh?Â* I'm confused.Â* Slow-played aces, or over-confident AQ (or even A8)? I have $35 back - call/raise/fold?
.25/.50 NL - 7 handed
Hero ($51.95) in MP with - Raises to $2.00
CO ($104.35) calls - LAG and lucky
Button ($48.85) calls - ABC player, calls a bit much
Flop
Hero bets $7
CO folds
Button calls
Turn
Hero bets $14
Button calls
River Any 8 beats me.Â* Pot is $48.75, and button has $25 back. Check or raise?Â* If check, do you call a raise here?
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Beanie, 1st hand, I push....I can't put him on AA. Maybe he has a full house with an 8 and you get all his chips.
Second hand, this is one of my favorites. I most likely put this guy on a flush draw. If you lead out he will simply fold as he missed his flush. I would check hoping that he tries to bluff and then call any bet. I can't put him on an 8 unless he flopped the nuts and was slow playing the entire way.
QQ is soooo difficult at times, especially when an ace hits the flop.
First hand, I don't think you have any choice here but to push.Â* If he's playing AA or 88, well tough hand, otherwise you're in great shape.Â* Can't put him on either of those two though, not sure why...A8 more than likely.
Second hand, check.Â* If he leads out with a 1/2pot bet, call.Â* If he pushes, seriously consider throwing this one away.
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Re: Strange QQ Hands
#1/ Well I'm not the mathematician that some of you are (Cory!) but aren't you having to call $6.50 into a $33.75 pot, better than 5-1? Now what else could he have? How about any pair, say 10's, J's, maybe a weak A? Clear call for me. Probably re-raise if I have a good read or know him well...
#2/ You said he calls a bit much, busted flush draw? maybe 8,9? Tough one, maybe fire $14. one more time? Â*This one is tougher, if he comes over top for the rest of his stack, gotta call, cause he could be on 2 pair or smaller set.
First hand, there's one hand that beats you... put it in there
Second hand I check / call.... betting just allows him to put a bigger whammy on you, and the only hand that calls your (or raises) is the one that beats you.
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QQ is soooo difficult at times, especially when an ace hits the flop.
hehehehe
As an aside, I find it easier to discuss at 1 hand at a time rather than 2 or more in one post.
First hand, meh, I never interpret a min-raise on the river correctly. I'd have to think he has a monster and is not afraid of a call. Unless he is tricky and wants you to think that... He's showing strength but you do have one of the top hands here. On balance I think you have to re-raise and hope to get called by a good but second-best hand.
Second hand, check call. If you bet out he folds with a busted draw and raises with a better hand. Hope to induce a bluff.
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First hand, my only question is if i reraise all-in or only to 20 .. likely all-in since to some guys might clue in on the value bet ... while most guys who would call 20 will call an all-in
I'm damn confused
1. If he's ABC and won't bluff, then i check and fold to an all-in ... and you won't induce a bluff either
2. I think a small defensive value bet, that gets called by many second best hands ... and a reluctant call if he goes over the top is an option
3. Or the best move-in since likely you'll call the river anyways and are unlikely to get a bluff from him
hand 1 you are only behind to aces or eights. If so, congrats to him when you pay him off when you push.
hand 2 you are against a loose ABC player. Unless he flopped the straight with 78, you bet the pot twice. Do you really think an unthinking player called you down to the river with a gutshot hoping to break you if he hits? Again you pay off his flopped straight when you bet $15 and he comes over the top.
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Mr. Chugs......I don't know why you state with certainty "and you won't induce a bluff either"
If I guy is on a busted flush draw against an opponent who has showed weakness....I have seen plenty of players fire in a bluff in that position...especially with such a scary board.
Anyways.....beanie I think you have gotten plenty of comments.....out with it!! What happened.
Anyways.....beanie I think you have gotten plenty of comments.....out with it!! What happened.
LOL - sorry to keep you waiting .Â* I do appreciate all the comments, since these hands had me thinking.
Hand 1 - I considered flat-calling, but I pushed instead, and he showed AA.Â* No bad beat, and I'm not complaining either.Â* He played it extremely well.Â* From what I've seen, the normal tendency is to re-raise pre-flop.Â* If he did, I'd call, and then check/fold after the ace hits.Â* After that, the hand played itself.Â* Folding is wrong at the end, but I'm not sure about my re-re-raise.Â* However, considering the normal competition at these limits, I'm probably ahead here often enough that it makes sense.
For hand #2, I couldn't give him credit for an 8, since it didn't make any sense.Â* I decided to check to induce a bluff, and he pushed.Â* I called, and he showed 99 for second set.Â* I'm curious from his perspective, what would everyone do?Â* Given the action, it would be hard to give me credit for an 8, so only QQ beats him.Â* Personally, I would've re-raised on the flop, and gotten all the chips in by the river if the Q's stayed with me.Â* Waiting so long he slow-played himself to death (although I wouldn't have folded to a flop re-raise anyway ).
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Well, its about time. I think the play by #2 illustrates the problems with slowplaying. With straight and flush possilbilities, he let a lot of hands get there to beat him. I don't mess around too much and I would have min raised the flop which would have gotten all the chips in and if you suck out great.
By the time the river comes.....with a set of nines, it's tough. With you action, I can see why he thought he was ahead and his all in is only a 1/2 sized pot bet, so I can't fault him....although in hindsight, I check could have been appropriate.
As you say you can't give him credit for an 8, so why do you think a check induces a bluff? Â*Bluffs only have credibility when the bets make sense. Â*I don't see anyone bluffing here. Â*An ABC player is simply not going to bet his weak pair. Â*Good thing he had a set, otherwise I think a check costs you value here.
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.Â* I do appreciate all the comments, since these hands had me thinking.
