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Feb 01,2005, 03:27 PM
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My journey through my hand histories from the past two weeks has been interesting to say the least. Here's a hand I just have to share.
Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is Button with 4c, 4h.
4 folds, MP2 (AhTc) calls, MP3 (9d6h) raises, 4 folds, MP2 calls.
Flop: (5.40 SB) 7d, Ad, Qh (2 players)
MP2 checks, MP3 bets, MP2 raises, MP3 calls.
Turn: (4.70 BB) 4d (2 players)
MP2 bets, MP3 calls.
River: (6.70 BB) 5d (2 players)
MP2 bets, MP3 calls.
Final Pot: 8.70 BB
Results below:
MP2 has Tc Ah (one pair, aces).
MP3 has 9d 6h (flush, ace high).
Outcome: MP3 wins 8.70 BB.
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Feb 01,2005, 03:34 PM
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my take on this hand is ,if MP3 continues to bet this way on hands like this he /she will be very broke.Actually if you them again send them over to my table.
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Feb 01,2005, 03:55 PM
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I see nothing strange here.
MP3 flops a straight draw, flush draw, and a 1 pair draw. The flush draw gets there.
MP3 needs to raise to protect this hand pre-flop, since it is capable of picking up so many simultaneous draws.
MP2 makes a nice river bet for value. Even not looking at the board, MP2 realizes he has at least Ace-high.
ScottyZ
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Feb 01,2005, 04:14 PM
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I need to really work on my sarcasm detector. You had me going for a moment there Scotty.
"...and a 1 pair draw..." lol
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Feb 01,2005, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Zithal I need to really work on my sarcasm detector. You had me going for a moment there Scotty. | Not sarcasm at all. I just decided to choose the "or not!" part. 
I'm tired of making sense, and needed to change gears. Quote: |
"...and a 1 pair draw..." lol
| The truly sick thing is that this kind of thinking (though probably not literally thinking this) is exactly why MP3 calls on the flop & turn.
And by sick, I mean profitable. And not for MP3.
ScottyZ
Disclaimer: The statement "Not sarcastic at all" may have been sarcastic. Or not.
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Feb 01,2005, 04:51 PM
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brings a tear to my eye, knowing that i'm not the only one chasing a the 1 pair draw.
but magi what i really want to know is what are you doing cold calling 2 bets with 44. Quote: |
Originally Posted by ScottyZ I see nothing strange here.
MP3 flops a straight draw, flush draw, and a 1 pair draw. The flush draw gets there.
MP3 needs to raise to protect this hand pre-flop, since it is capable of picking up so many simultaneous draws.
MP2 makes a nice river bet for value. Even not looking at the board, MP2 realizes he has at least Ace-high.
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Feb 01,2005, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Chugs but magi what i really want to know is what are you doing cold calling 2 bets with 44. | i don't think he did, he wasn't even in this hand, i don't think.....
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Feb 01,2005, 05:36 PM
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I guess that bizarre undercards hoping for runner runner 4 flush to a mid card play happens in 5/10 as well.
Probably the very strangest hand I saw in my recent limit grind (keep in mind this was 1/2 only) was a capping preflop between two wild players (one was the BB).
Flop was QQK
Went bet raise reraise call.
Turn was K
Bet raise call
river 10
bet raise reraise reraise call.
One had 77 other had 88 so they split the pot and after they paid the rake I think they each lost a quarter which seemed like the proper outcome.
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Feb 01,2005, 06:01 PM
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I can very easily explain that hand by putting the most important factor in bold
Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is Button with 4c, 4h.
4 folds, MP2 (AhTc) calls, MP3 (9d6h) raises, 4 folds, MP2 calls.
Flop: (5.40 SB) 7d, Ad, Qh (2 players)
MP2 checks, MP3 bets, MP2 raises, MP3 calls.
Turn: (4.70 BB) 4d (2 players)
MP2 bets, MP3 calls.
River: (6.70 BB) 5d (2 players)
MP2 bets, MP3 calls.
Final Pot: 8.70 BB
Results below:
MP2 has Tc Ah (one pair, aces).
MP3 has 9d 6h (flush, ace high).
Outcome: MP3 wins 8.70 BB.
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Feb 01,2005, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Chugs brings a tear to my eye, knowing that i'm not the only one chasing a the 1 pair draw.
but magi what i really want to know is what are you doing cold calling 2 bets with 44. |
With all those draws, I actually folded pre-flop. Then again, I probably fold too much, cause the implied odds are huge here (insert sarcasm smily).
Cheers
Magi
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Feb 01,2005, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottyZ The truly sick thing is that this kind of thinking (though probably not literally thinking this) is exactly why MP3 calls on the flop & turn.
And by sick, I mean profitable. And not for MP3.
ScottyZ
Disclaimer: The statement "Not sarcastic at all" may have been sarcastic. Or not. | Love the disclaimer, instead of the footnote!
It's a wacky hand, when the forum has trouble following the action. MP3 actually bet the turn. The great thing about this hand is that MP2 bet the river, and MP3 making his wild ass draw calls it down, instead of raising.
IMO, I don't think I can actually follow ANY line of thought on this hand -- hence the "or not" part of the post.
Sometimes it's just best to sit back, watch and enjoy the action. I just had to post this one.
Cheers
Magi
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