KK live 5/10 Brantford.

moose · Nov 28,2007, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by moose

Raise postflop. If I am behind, it costs me a small bet to find out.

Unless you feel Jasmine is a particularly tricky or aggressive player, most players will take one of two lines. Either they hammer the flop by 3 betting you and betting into you again on the turn or they flat call your raise on the flop and c/r you on the turn. Either way against most ABC players you can fold on the turn.

If Jasmine is the type to c/r raise good hands on the turn and you still want to go to showdown then you can also check behind on the turn.

Either way you must raise the flop to help define your hand.

ReefAquarium · Nov 28,2007, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by moose

Either way you must raise the flop to help define your hand.

Thanks for the advice!

I agree I played this hand poorly. I was in a must raise situation. This is a bad leak in my game I need to clean up.

So you bet and call if she reraises.

On the turn if you don't hit your K then you fold to a raise on the turn unless you pick up another draw.

moose · Nov 28,2007, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ReefAquarium

Thanks for the advice!

I agree I played this hand poorly. I was in a must raise situation. This is a bad leak in my game I need to clean up.

So you bet and call if she reraises.

On the turn if you don't hit your K then you fold to a raise on the turn unless you pick up another draw.

Unlikely on the turn I bet if she 3 bets the flop. If she bets into me again on the turn whether I call or fold depends on my read of the player.

If she flat calls the flop then with the OESD on the turn I probably bet the turn because the chances I am ahead balance nicely with the chances she may c/r + the chances I may draw out on the river.

It's only a pair. In position I'd rather be aggressive early and then slow down the turn and river by trying to check behind if I am met with resistance on the flop because too many players at Brantford suffer from fancy play syndrome. If you feel you may be behind on the flop, a raise in position will often induce a player with a big hand like a set to flat call the raise and try for a c/r on the turn. An extra small bet on the flop can often get you to the river for free.

SirWatts · Nov 28,2007, 04:11 PM

Don't worry about folding big pairs in huge pots, you're not supposed to do that unless it's against the nittiest nits. If you raised and she just called your flop raise you should check behind the turn if she checks to you because you still almost never have the best hand and you're going to get checkraised.

moose · Nov 28,2007, 08:39 PM

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If you raised and she just called your flop raise you should check behind the turn if she checks to you because you still almost never have the best hand and you're going to get checkraised.

Well I wouldn't say almost never. I am value betting the turn in many cases against players that are incapable of folding any pair, especially those types that over value AK and also the small-med pp.

SirWatts · Nov 28,2007, 10:14 PM

Assuming the same T turns we lose to AK though. If a blank turns it's a close decision and I'd usually bet.

BigChrisEl · Nov 29,2007, 08:48 AM

I think Berry Greenstein said something like “when playing limit poker you need to look at your hand and determine if it is worth between 7 and 10 bets?"

Basically will you play it for 3 to 4 bets to see the flop, 1-2 bets to see the turn, 1 big bet to see the river and 1 big bet to go to show down.

So when you see pocket Kings you have decided "will I play this hand for $50 to win maybe $150 to $200 depending on how many players are in the hand."