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Old Jan 10,2006, 03:03 PM   #1
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The Legends of Bristol St. - DISCUSSION

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Now that that's out of the way, I'd like to start a discussion on the format of the tournament. I'll write down the ideas I have and look to the forums for comments. I'll try to seperate them out in to various sections, so that you can comment on specific sections.

A) Buy-in and starting chips.

$30 buy-in for $10,000 in chips. Freeze-out NLHE. I'm not looking for a big buy in and want to keep this open to a large range of people. My "thing" is low buy-in tournaments, so I don't want to go overboard here. Maxing the tournamnet out will put $1,280,000 on the table. The money is nice, but the real prize in is in the TV time.

B) Signing up

"Day 1" is split into four days, "Day 1A, Day 1B, etc.." (chances are each "day" is on a week night within a two week window of each other. Probably have one on a Sat. to mix it up). Each day is maxed out at 32 players. I'll have the date of each Day 1 decided beforehand, so to sign up, you list all the possible day(s) that you can make it. Registration closes a few days before the first day and players are randomly assigned a Day 1 heat, based on when they can make it, keeping the number of players for each day as balanced as possible.

C) Blind schedule.

Day 1 starts at 25-50 increasing at 20 minute intervals. Design the blinds so that the tournament runs starting from 7pm, ending around midnight. Play with antes, modifying the KWSOP schedule accordingly. The final table starts with 9 players, so that at 10 players play starts hand for hand. Once the final table forms, play down to 8 players, (one eliminations) who take their total chips into Day 2.

On Day2, reset the blinds so that the Big Blind is about 1/50th of an average stack. (eg. If 128 players, the average stack on Day 2 is $40,000. 1/50th of this is 800, so the first blind level is 400-800 (100 ante).) I'm doing this so that Day 2 gets a little more play in. Schedule for a Friday or Saturday and possibly raisng the blind levels to 30 minutes. Go hand for hand at the money (top 10%), and eventually play down to 6 players.

On Day3, the final table, reset the blinds to 1/50th of an average stack again. (so that the 'televised' final table has a little action to it.) Hold this on a Saturday and move the blind levels to one hour each to account for slow-downs due to taping. Day 3 will likely be one week after Day 2, so that we can convert the basement into a studio. (Does this kill the event for out of town players?)

D) Hole "cams"

I don't have the equipment to do hole cams properly and inexpensively, so an alternative needs to be found. The idea I have is to provide each player a folder that has listed hand numbers and the various cards they could have. The player crosses out their cards then play begins once the folders are put away. This takes a while, but is cheap and one of the arguements for making longer blind levels. We need to be able to trust players to accurately record their hands.

(Alternately, we can do away with showing cards, but I think that takes away a lot of the fun.)

E) Poker Filming

Two cams; one secured to the ceiling to provide a single shot of the board cards. One free moving camera to capture the players. Player would would need to wait to act until the camera moves to them, so there'll need to be a coaching session beforehand. Creative editing on my part would give the impression of multiple cameras angles. The problem with two roaming cameras is that colour balance and quality would be off unless we had two of the same camera, which I'm going to assume won't happen as primary filming will be done with a GL-2.

F) Other Filming

To keep with a fun show, we'll have the standard player interviews. (Possibly on a day leading up to the final table), exit interviews, and a Shauna-type announcer. (Does this mean I get to run auditions!!?! Woohoo!!) What else can we add to make it different from what's out there? The "Legends of Bristol Street could (would?) also incorporate other format games with smaller entrants and action between the hands could include the results of these tournaments so that more people get air time)

G) Announcing

Obviously, I'd like to be one of the announcers, but I'm definately open to running auditions. Voice-overs would be done entire post-edit.

H) Final Table Dealers

One dealer per blind level would be wonderful. Players that bust out are welcome to take part. I think we should have Dealer interviews.

J) DVD Extras

What else do we want to see? Chances are good that this will be a two DVD set. We could have our very own Bristol St. Roshambo tournament, interviews with the 2005 Player of the Year and 2005 Champion, etc, etc.

Start the discussion! Look to early Feb for the offical announcement and sign up thread.
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Old Jan 10,2006, 03:34 PM   #2
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Re: The Legends of Bristol St. - DISCUSSION

Rob, this tournament proves to be a blast for sure! Things I absolutely love about it:

10K in chips, $30 buy-in

Random player playing days
As long as you can give us ample amount of time to beautify ourselves

Blind Schedule
With the added luxury of having this filmed you might want to think about giving yourself atleast an extra hour towards the tournament. I assume that you'll be pausing the clock when a player needs to halt action for the camera to come around.

Hole Cams
If you decide to have players use the folder idea, I would try to make all folders as random as possible. It could avoid "Mario made two checks in the right top corner, he has a pair of ducks". I do see this as the cheapest way to accomplish the task of knowing the hole cards.

Filming
I'll look great on film!

Announcing
You'll be a great announcer but will definately need a sidekick. Are you planning on playing too?

Dealers
Should have distinctive clothing on to seperate them from the players, dealer interiews rule!

Extras
I love the idea of player interviews, especially the POTY and TOCC interviews Bust out interviews, and random hand interviews could add a lot to it too. Random player hand analysis "Steve, come over here and tell me how you would have played this hand". Also, using hands from the tournament a quiz could be made of how well the hand was played/how poorly it was played.

This will be an amazing feat to say the least....thanks in advance for taking it on. When are you thinking of running it?

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Re: The Legends of Bristol St. - DISCUSSION

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This will be an amazing feat to say the least....thanks in advance for taking it on. When are you thinking of running it?
According to his puzzle, its supposed to be in March of 06.

Just one suggestion in terms of the recording part. I'm not sure how practical it is, but maybe possibly run a simulation of the final table along with all the recording/folder thing that needs to be done so you can get a more accurate estimate of how much time is required.
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Old Jan 10,2006, 03:49 PM   #4
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As for hole card recording... What about using webcams interfaced to a couple of laptops? In any case you know Milton wants in on this.... Where's the sign up sheet?
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Old Jan 10,2006, 04:04 PM   #5
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As for hole card recording... What about using webcams interfaced to a couple of laptops? In any case you know Milton wants in on this.... Where's the sign up sheet?
You know, that might work. Run 6 cables into three laptops and have a sucker volnteer sitting there recording the hands on paper.

The move to one hour blinds (actually, probably closer to 55 minutes, due to MiniDV tape recording length) is to accomidate the time taken to do non-poker stuff.

I'm thinking of mid March, in a two week window to get this complete. I'll announce all dates in March with the finals likely the 18th-ish.
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Sounds like a blast.

If you need some help, just let us locals know, We'd be glad to pitch in!

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Re: The Legends of Bristol St. - DISCUSSION

Rob, I can also provide at least 1 laptop for this... I may be able to get us some inexpensive web cams as well.... Not sure what software we would use though.... Perhaps someone on here has some ideas... Jeff...
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I have a web cam you can use....

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This is a really fantastic idea, Rob. FYI, I spent a few years in Film and TV school if you need any help with lighting or other relevant issues.

Ideas: The folder Hole Card counter could make things run really long. And I am sure you want this as painless as possible. Web Cams would be a great idea and could be installed semi-easily with the right table.

I agree with dealer uniforms.

I won't question your blind schedule, you know more than most what works and what doesn't.

A sidekick announcer would be great as well. I am not sure if auditions would be the way to go, however, you could use popular Forum members on different days and rotate the guest annoucer ala Ultimate Poker Challenge.

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I still think that we could get Dave Foley REALLY cheap.....although I'm sure one of us would go on tilt and strangle the guy.
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A sidekick announcer would be great as well. I am not sure if auditions would be the way to go, however, you could use popular Forum members on different days and rotate the guest annoucer ala Ultimate Poker Challenge.
I am sure Shannon would love to be an announcer seeing he is the popular person on the forum and as he probably won't be playing poker that day.

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Let's hope. But odds are someone here won't make it all the way. Like this Brent guy I know.
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A sidekick announcer would be great as well. I am not sure if auditions would be the way to go, however, you could use popular Forum members on different days and rotate the guest annoucer ala Ultimate Poker Challenge.
I am sure Shannon would love to be an announcer seeing he is the popular person on the forum and as he probably won't be playing poker that day.

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I would love to help out with the announcing, that would be an unprecedented TWO sexy announcers. Yes, I called Rob sexy....man flirting! I hope to be playing long into the tournament but I thought that voice overs would be done after the tournament was over. I think another unprecedented event would be having the person that won actually be an announcer too! Thats my plan, I'll audition if Rob will have me....Other people I would suggest off the top of my head. Steve "All in", Mark "DrTyore", Amanda "Easy", Cory "Folded", Lou "magithighs"...just off the top of my head though...

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Lou would be great, since he's probally the best player to grace Bristol Street. He could comment on the play with Rob/whomever doing the "colour commentary"

Or Dave Foley.....whatever

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