HAHA. I don't know either. I haven't played FR for a looooong time but I would think that 5BB would be smoking these games unless you are a table selection X-purt
HAHA. I don't know either. I haven't played FR for a looooong time but I would think that 5BB would be smoking these games unless you are a table selection X-purt
i've found if you look for a table with one player over the table max and a bunch of guys under that you have a very good starting place. just keep the big stack to your right and squeeze in on his fishing hole.
HAHA. I don't know either. I haven't played FR for a looooong time but I would think that 5BB would be smoking these games unless you are a table selection X-purt
Here it is, how many BB/100 hands should a very good 10/25 cent player make? Assume at least 20k hands are used. Thanks ahead for any info!
Does it matter? Its kind of like asking what a good score at the mini golf course is...sure you might post a great score, but if your putting is that good, you really should take up real golf instead of honing your skills at mini golf because the ceiling for improvement is just so low.
Same with poker. Sure you can try and find out what a very good win rate at 10/25cent is, but if you are winning, you really should just move up and try to sharpen your skills to do better at higher levels rather then worrying about where you stand in the pantheon of 10/25 cent players.
I'd be surprised if very many people at all on this forum can beat .10/.25 full ring over a decent sample size. I'm not even sure I can, unless I 1 tabled and focused, and I have played LITERALLY (and I am using that word correctly) over a million hands of poker.
Online poker is very tough. Except for HU limit, which is all button mashing.
I'd be surprised if very many people at all on this forum can beat .10/.25 full ring over a decent sample size. I'm not even sure I can, unless I 1 tabled and focused, and I have played LITERALLY (and I am using that word correctly) over a million hands of poker.
Online poker is very tough. Except for HU limit, which is all button mashing.
Here it is, how many BB/100 hands should a very good 10/25 cent player make? Assume at least 20k hands are used. Thanks ahead for any info!
You're asking the wrong question I think.
You should be asking, "How can I move up so I don't have to waste time playing .10/.25?
Why??
Here is the list of the players who won the most money on Full tilt .1/.25 game since June 08.
Notice that the top .1/.25 player in the site has only won $3002...
As stated above...
It's not a good idea to concentrate on that level — The 50th best 25NL player on the site and possibly the world has only made about $1300 in the past 2 years.
Player Site Net Hands BB/100
LOL I BLUFF
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Full Tilt Poker $3,002 278,887 2.15
kazoooiiie
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Full Tilt Poker $2,971 170,675 3.48
Bacana
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Full Tilt Poker $2,904 235,961 2.46
Earthman42
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Full Tilt Poker $2,552 323,470 1.58
Vasari asap
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Full Tilt Poker $2,536 254,089 2
grubinator08
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Full Tilt Poker $2,314 160,323 2.89
mbburch
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Full Tilt Poker $2,308 145,060 3.18
Standouts
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Full Tilt Poker $2,259 58,077 7.78
sirPriit
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Full Tilt Poker $2,213 163,531 2.71
Journeyman54
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Full Tilt Poker $2,210 132,993 3.32
stewcrew
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Full Tilt Poker $2,160 116,761 3.7
Rounderup88
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Full Tilt Poker $2,085 131,391 3.17
Lament1
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Full Tilt Poker $2,032 261,731 1.55
Tuuuuuuut
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Full Tilt Poker $1,989 31,617 12.58
Fethry Duck
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Full Tilt Poker $1,986 111,462 3.56
89acehigh
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Full Tilt Poker $1,973 68,255 5.78
32o_push
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Full Tilt Poker $1,944 19,926 19.52
aalpine
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Full Tilt Poker $1,925 71,321 5.4
WooriBank
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Full Tilt Poker $1,852 201,573 1.84
DAbubbley
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Full Tilt Poker $1,787 150,956 2.37
TDpoker1
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Full Tilt Poker $1,734 61,889 5.6
NickiNit
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Full Tilt Poker $1,725 195,824 1.76
Gangstachic
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Full Tilt Poker $1,682 159,891 2.1
jackpotjojo
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Full Tilt Poker $1,673 76,672 4.37
RearNakedCh8ke
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Full Tilt Poker $1,657 111,407 2.98
david906
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Full Tilt Poker $1,655 165,428 2
Vanidor
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Full Tilt Poker $1,651 48,433 6.82
Nagrinn
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Full Tilt Poker $1,637 52,154 6.28
Timothy Mark
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Full Tilt Poker $1,631 54,234 6.01
OMFH
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Full Tilt Poker $1,622 66,461 4.88
1080twist
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Full Tilt Poker $1,617 54,713 5.91
Pants N At
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Full Tilt Poker $1,610 203,912 1.58
- Tilted Rag3 -
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Full Tilt Poker $1,593 111,163 2.87
allcheck85
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Full Tilt Poker $1,559 217,807 1.43
KBJ1207
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Full Tilt Poker $1,536 550,636 0.56
exxubiak
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Full Tilt Poker $1,488 42,266 7.04
Astrotrain
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Full Tilt Poker $1,476 114,755 2.57
emilyhowerton
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Full Tilt Poker $1,474 39,312 7.5
SinbadTheBad
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Full Tilt Poker $1,464 149,139 1.96
allstarp
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Full Tilt Poker $1,459 70,988 4.11
joha43
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Full Tilt Poker $1,448 60,204 4.81
DanielTanner
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Full Tilt Poker $1,447 58,804 4.92
0-KiRiN-0
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Full Tilt Poker $1,445 106,485 2.71
GoMucKyrSelf
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Full Tilt Poker $1,439 35,464 8.12
maerchenmarie
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Full Tilt Poker $1,416 184,182 1.54
stanley644
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Full Tilt Poker $1,395 111,036 2.51
InMyMemory
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Full Tilt Poker $1,392 71,432 3.9
Despire
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Full Tilt Poker $1,378 50,039 5.51
telipych
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Full Tilt Poker $1,365 58,278 4.69
OducksO
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Full Tilt Poker $1,360 206,877 1.31
games have gotten a lot tougher.
Longish-term, I think 2-3 PTBB's is
reasonable and 4+ is quite good for FR micro.
Only way to make any money is to
open up 12, 16, even 20 tables and
grind that shit up.
If you're beating 25NL consistantly for
more than 5 PTBB's then you're ready for 50NL.
all this is, IMO.
Edit: I just noticed Reefs post tells you BB's.
Guess I wasnt too far off.
You should be asking, "How can I move up so I don't have to waste time playing .10/.25?
It's not necessarily the wrong question. Just because someone is beating a certain level for the time being, doesn't always mean that they're properly rolled for a higher limit. I would assume that would be the case for the OP. Unless of course he wants to be grinding it out at 25NL.
I'm beating 25NL for 4.9ptbb over 200k hands while 24 tabling. I'm a slight winner at NL50 but the variance has been sick and I've been running horribly the past few days.
If you can teach yourself to 24 table well you can make over $30/hour plus FPP's with very little variance.
I'm beating 25NL for 4.9ptbb over 200k hands while 24 tabling. I'm a slight winner at NL50 but the variance has been sick and I've been running horribly the past few days.
If you can teach yourself to 24 table well you can make over $30/hour plus FPP's with very little variance.
seems like way too much work for $30/h....I used to make much more than that 6 tabling PLO 50 over a 100k hand sample
seems like way too much work for $30/h....I used to make much more than that 6 tabling PLO 50 over a 100k hand sample
It's not that much work actually. I use tableninja and have a hotkey for every single task you could think of including openiing tables, sitting down, buying in and posting blinds.
Not sure how fast PLO tables run but given its a more complicated game than NLHE and and more hands per hour in 6max too. I generally get in about 1300 hands per hour and play about 15% vpip. Played close to a million hands in 2009 and my biggest downswing was $250, while most downswings being less than $100. Less stress and easy money, not to mention a ton of FPP points.
I'm beating 25NL for 4.9ptbb over 200k hands while 24 tabling. I'm a slight winner at NL50 but the variance has been sick and I've been running horribly the past few days.
If you can teach yourself to 24 table well you can make over $30/hour plus FPP's with very little variance.
Cool, what's your handle online and which site do you play? Would like to rail sometime.
I'm beating 25NL for 4.9ptbb over 200k hands while 24 tabling. I'm a slight winner at NL50 but the variance has been sick and I've been running horribly the past few days.
If you can teach yourself to 24 table well you can make over $30/hour plus FPP's with very little variance.
24 table.... Sounds like a good way to make my eyes bleed while my head exploding....
Dont know how you do it but GJ.
With the right set up you'd be surprised how much you can handle. I think that 24 tabling FR is actually probably as tough as maybe 9 tabling 6max. You get more hands per hour at 24 tables but your going to see a lot less flops. In 6max your going to have to play a lot more thin spots. I stack all my tables for one, and have a very finely tuned HUD, and let tableninja do most of the work for me so that I can be quick.
I recently changed my table theme to a mod that color codes the ring around the player avatar based on whatever color you've assigned that player in the new color notes feature. Now its a lot easier for me to recognize when a table has 4+ shortstacks or good regs on it as well as knowing how many fish or weak regs are on it. As long as I don't have yellow and red to my immediate left, preferably some light blue guys there (nits and weak regs) with a bit of green ( fish) somewhere on the table then I'm happy to stay and grind.
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Plus define very good.
Very good like crushing @ 25BB/100
or Very good like having a sustainable winrate at these levels of say 7-10BB/100.
AWESOME
Is that reasonable in these Full Ring Nitfestivals?
Downgrade a few points if that's the case.
i've found if you look for a table with one player over the table max and a bunch of guys under that you have a very good starting place. just keep the big stack to your right and squeeze in on his fishing hole.
agreed
Does it matter? Its kind of like asking what a good score at the mini golf course is...sure you might post a great score, but if your putting is that good, you really should take up real golf instead of honing your skills at mini golf because the ceiling for improvement is just so low.
Same with poker. Sure you can try and find out what a very good win rate at 10/25cent is, but if you are winning, you really should just move up and try to sharpen your skills to do better at higher levels rather then worrying about where you stand in the pantheon of 10/25 cent players.
Online poker is very tough. Except for HU limit, which is all button mashing.
I wouldn't be surprised....
You're asking the wrong question I think.
You should be asking, "How can I move up so I don't have to waste time playing .10/.25?
Why??
Here is the list of the players who won the most money on Full tilt .1/.25 game since June 08.
Notice that the top .1/.25 player in the site has only won $3002...
As stated above...
It's not a good idea to concentrate on that level — The 50th best 25NL player on the site and possibly the world has only made about $1300 in the past 2 years.
Player Site Net Hands BB/100
LOL I BLUFF
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Full Tilt Poker $3,002 278,887 2.15
kazoooiiie
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Full Tilt Poker $2,971 170,675 3.48
Bacana
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Full Tilt Poker $2,904 235,961 2.46
Earthman42
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Full Tilt Poker $2,552 323,470 1.58
Vasari asap
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Full Tilt Poker $2,536 254,089 2
grubinator08
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Full Tilt Poker $2,314 160,323 2.89
mbburch
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Full Tilt Poker $2,308 145,060 3.18
Standouts
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Full Tilt Poker $2,259 58,077 7.78
sirPriit
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Full Tilt Poker $2,213 163,531 2.71
Journeyman54
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Full Tilt Poker $2,210 132,993 3.32
stewcrew
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Full Tilt Poker $2,160 116,761 3.7
Rounderup88
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Full Tilt Poker $2,085 131,391 3.17
Lament1
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Full Tilt Poker $2,032 261,731 1.55
Tuuuuuuut
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Full Tilt Poker $1,989 31,617 12.58
Fethry Duck
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Full Tilt Poker $1,986 111,462 3.56
89acehigh
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Full Tilt Poker $1,973 68,255 5.78
32o_push
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Full Tilt Poker $1,944 19,926 19.52
aalpine
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Full Tilt Poker $1,925 71,321 5.4
WooriBank
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Full Tilt Poker $1,852 201,573 1.84
DAbubbley
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Full Tilt Poker $1,787 150,956 2.37
TDpoker1
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Full Tilt Poker $1,734 61,889 5.6
NickiNit
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Full Tilt Poker $1,725 195,824 1.76
Gangstachic
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Full Tilt Poker $1,682 159,891 2.1
jackpotjojo
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Full Tilt Poker $1,673 76,672 4.37
RearNakedCh8ke
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Full Tilt Poker $1,657 111,407 2.98
david906
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Full Tilt Poker $1,655 165,428 2
Vanidor
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Full Tilt Poker $1,651 48,433 6.82
Nagrinn
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Full Tilt Poker $1,637 52,154 6.28
Timothy Mark
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Full Tilt Poker $1,631 54,234 6.01
OMFH
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Full Tilt Poker $1,622 66,461 4.88
1080twist
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Full Tilt Poker $1,617 54,713 5.91
Pants N At
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Full Tilt Poker $1,610 203,912 1.58
- Tilted Rag3 -
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Full Tilt Poker $1,593 111,163 2.87
allcheck85
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Full Tilt Poker $1,559 217,807 1.43
KBJ1207
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Full Tilt Poker $1,536 550,636 0.56
exxubiak
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Full Tilt Poker $1,488 42,266 7.04
Astrotrain
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Full Tilt Poker $1,476 114,755 2.57
emilyhowerton
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Full Tilt Poker $1,474 39,312 7.5
SinbadTheBad
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Full Tilt Poker $1,464 149,139 1.96
allstarp
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Full Tilt Poker $1,459 70,988 4.11
joha43
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Full Tilt Poker $1,448 60,204 4.81
DanielTanner
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Full Tilt Poker $1,447 58,804 4.92
0-KiRiN-0
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Full Tilt Poker $1,445 106,485 2.71
GoMucKyrSelf
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Full Tilt Poker $1,439 35,464 8.12
maerchenmarie
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Full Tilt Poker $1,416 184,182 1.54
stanley644
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Full Tilt Poker $1,395 111,036 2.51
InMyMemory
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Full Tilt Poker $1,392 71,432 3.9
Despire
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Full Tilt Poker $1,378 50,039 5.51
telipych
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Full Tilt Poker $1,365 58,278 4.69
OducksO
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Full Tilt Poker $1,360 206,877 1.31
*sigh*
I'm always close to moving up the stakes online...
Longish-term, I think 2-3 PTBB's is
reasonable and 4+ is quite good for FR micro.
Only way to make any money is to
open up 12, 16, even 20 tables and
grind that shit up.
If you're beating 25NL consistantly for
more than 5 PTBB's then you're ready for 50NL.
all this is, IMO.
Edit: I just noticed Reefs post tells you BB's.
Guess I wasnt too far off.
It's not necessarily the wrong question. Just because someone is beating a certain level for the time being, doesn't always mean that they're properly rolled for a higher limit. I would assume that would be the case for the OP. Unless of course he wants to be grinding it out at 25NL.
If you can teach yourself to 24 table well you can make over $30/hour plus FPP's with very little variance.
seems like way too much work for $30/h....I used to make much more than that 6 tabling PLO 50 over a 100k hand sample
It's not that much work actually. I use tableninja and have a hotkey for every single task you could think of including openiing tables, sitting down, buying in and posting blinds.
Not sure how fast PLO tables run but given its a more complicated game than NLHE and and more hands per hour in 6max too. I generally get in about 1300 hands per hour and play about 15% vpip. Played close to a million hands in 2009 and my biggest downswing was $250, while most downswings being less than $100. Less stress and easy money, not to mention a ton of FPP points.
Cool, what's your handle online and which site do you play? Would like to rail sometime.
24 table.... Sounds like a good way to make my eyes bleed while my head exploding....
Dont know how you do it but GJ.
I recently changed my table theme to a mod that color codes the ring around the player avatar based on whatever color you've assigned that player in the new color notes feature. Now its a lot easier for me to recognize when a table has 4+ shortstacks or good regs on it as well as knowing how many fish or weak regs are on it. As long as I don't have yellow and red to my immediate left, preferably some light blue guys there (nits and weak regs) with a bit of green ( fish) somewhere on the table then I'm happy to stay and grind.