B&m $1/2 nl
At a local casino, and after a phone call, Hero's got his chips racked ready to party scoring 2.5 BI for the day.
He's UTG with with 6
7 and thinks "Ah what the hell, last hand" and calls $2.
UTG+1 calls
MP+1 Calls
MP+3 Raise to $5
CO Calls
Bu Calls
both blinds call, I call, MP+1 calls
(really should check out some live poker in vancouver, so juicy)
Pot = $40
FLOP
57
9
Hero bets $20
Everyone folds to SB (villian) who Calls $20.
SB is known to me as a loose but solid player, can be very trappy, doesn't try to put money in the pot when behind, yet still likes to make moves.
He has approx. $280 behind after this bet
Pot = $80
TURN
5
Villian donk bets $30
Hero thinks, Calls $30
RIVER
Pot = $140
4
Villian bets $30
Hero ????
We made our flush but I really do not know where I stand. I higher flush to me seems very unlikely, There is no reason for him to donk bet unless it was a blocking bet. Full House also seems unlikely, I dont see him smooth calling 75, 95, 99, 77, or 55 OOP then donk betting the turn, but he is very trappy and still capable of making plays like this. he might do the same with 86, a made straight, but the whole line of play confuses me.
What would you do on the turn and river? Do we raise for value on the river or call and hope we have the best?
He's UTG with with 6
7 and thinks "Ah what the hell, last hand" and calls $2.UTG+1 calls
MP+1 Calls
MP+3 Raise to $5
CO Calls
Bu Calls
both blinds call, I call, MP+1 calls
(really should check out some live poker in vancouver, so juicy)
Pot = $40
FLOP
5
79Hero bets $20
Everyone folds to SB (villian) who Calls $20.
SB is known to me as a loose but solid player, can be very trappy, doesn't try to put money in the pot when behind, yet still likes to make moves.
He has approx. $280 behind after this bet
Pot = $80
TURN
5
Villian donk bets $30
Hero thinks, Calls $30
RIVER
Pot = $140
4
Villian bets $30
Hero ????
We made our flush but I really do not know where I stand. I higher flush to me seems very unlikely, There is no reason for him to donk bet unless it was a blocking bet. Full House also seems unlikely, I dont see him smooth calling 75, 95, 99, 77, or 55 OOP then donk betting the turn, but he is very trappy and still capable of making plays like this. he might do the same with 86, a made straight, but the whole line of play confuses me.
What would you do on the turn and river? Do we raise for value on the river or call and hope we have the best?
Comments
OI! Posted this a while ago, no one knows or no one cares?
or am I just too n00b to understand?
call it out and see what you got.
I hate threads like this because like doyle says, PLAY THE PLAYER, NOT THE CARDS.
what ended up happening?
not sure why you made a thread about it, its just another hand as far as im concerned...???
Against some players, raising the river can be profitable, but not the player as described.
The thread is about EV. I'm obviously calling, but the bet looks like either a suck bet or a blocking bet.
The question Im asking is whether or not to raise the river for value. I've talked to a few people about this, most say raise to 80 and fold to an all-in, so im curious as to what others would have to say.
I highly doubt that villian would fold a straight to a value raise. Also doubt he'd fold two pair or an overpair.
(I'll bump the flop pretty often too with hands like this, though likely not in this particular instance with a bunch of loose-passive players)
To be honest, I don't think there is anything wrong with folding, but against this LAG player I believe my flush draw is good. At the same time I understand what you're saying. Im drawing to a flush, and If I don't get a big bet in on the river then implied odds are useless, and the pot odds hardly compensate.
If the turn wasn't HU, and villian made a significant raise I'd agree on folding, but he's betting less then half the pot OOP. I definetely don't want to raise the turn with my 1 pair, but when I'm drawing so well and stacks are at stake I think its worth peeling a card.
Then you have your answer, don't you? Saying/believing that- you need to raise the river.
Seems to me the bet on the turn and the bet on the river were blocking bets. I think a full house will play a different line here. Plus the bet sizing is horrible for him to be repping a full house.
I mean if you call the turn on a paired board and he has some sort of hand I don't see on the river how he bets so small.
In 1/2 always watch those "I don't know if I am good" river bets. They are usually not a nut hand but some monster. Clearly if villian has a full house he would have at least put in 70-80 bucks on the river.
yes ty. I think this is true. The fear of the boat got a hold of me so I smooth called....
Yeah like black said I think its a blocking bet. Just curious on other people's lines.