A few PLO Hands
Just to liven the PLO forum up here are a couple of hands I played recently.
Anyone who would have played them differently?
PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
MP: $18.29
CO: $6.00
Hero (BTN): $17.52
SB: $10.00
BB: $29.90
UTG: $6.65
SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has A
K:club: A:diamond: Q:diamond:
UTG raises to $0.35, fold, CO calls $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, SB raises to $1.85, fold, UTG calls $1.50, CO calls $1.50, Hero raises to $9.35, SB raises to $10.00 and is all-in, UTG calls $4.80 and is all-in, CO calls $4.15 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.65
Flop: ($32.75, 4 players) 9 8:spade: 9:spade:
Turn: ($32.75, 4 players) 4:spade:
River: ($32.75, 4 players) K
SB shows 5:spade: 6 5 7 (Two Pair, Nines and Fives)
Hero shows A K:club: A:diamond: Q:diamond: (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)
UTG shows 8:club: T:diamond: J A:spade: (Two Pair, Nines and Eights)
CO shows Q:spade: 3:diamond: T K:spade: (Flush, King High)
CO wins $22.90
Hero wins $8.22
PokerStars - $0.25 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
BTN: $23.92
SB: $25.68
BB: $50.09
Hero (UTG): $23.68
CO: $54.11
SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25
Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has K 7:diamond: 8 8:diamond:
Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, SB calls $0.65, fold
Flop: ($1.75, 2 players) 8:club: 3 K:club:
SB checks, Hero bets $1.25, SB raises to $5.25, Hero raises to $17.42, SB raises to $24.93 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.51 and is all-in
Turn: ($47.61, 2 players) 3:club:
River: ($47.61, 2 players) T:spade:
SB shows 4:club: A:club: A Q:club: (Flush, Ace High)
Hero shows K 7:diamond: 8 8:diamond: (Full House, Eights full of Threes)
Hero wins $45.61
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Anyone who would have played them differently?
PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
MP: $18.29
CO: $6.00
Hero (BTN): $17.52
SB: $10.00
BB: $29.90
UTG: $6.65
SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has A
K:club: A:diamond: Q:diamond:UTG raises to $0.35, fold, CO calls $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, SB raises to $1.85, fold, UTG calls $1.50, CO calls $1.50, Hero raises to $9.35, SB raises to $10.00 and is all-in, UTG calls $4.80 and is all-in, CO calls $4.15 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.65
Flop: ($32.75, 4 players) 9
8:spade: 9:spade:Turn: ($32.75, 4 players) 4:spade:
River: ($32.75, 4 players) K
SB shows 5:spade: 6
5 7 (Two Pair, Nines and Fives)Hero shows A
K:club: A:diamond: Q:diamond: (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)UTG shows 8:club: T:diamond: J
A:spade: (Two Pair, Nines and Eights)CO shows Q:spade: 3:diamond: T
K:spade: (Flush, King High)CO wins $22.90
Hero wins $8.22
PokerStars - $0.25 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
BTN: $23.92
SB: $25.68
BB: $50.09
Hero (UTG): $23.68
CO: $54.11
SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25
Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has K
7:diamond: 8 8:diamond:Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, SB calls $0.65, fold
Flop: ($1.75, 2 players) 8:club: 3
K:club:SB checks, Hero bets $1.25, SB raises to $5.25, Hero raises to $17.42, SB raises to $24.93 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.51 and is all-in
Turn: ($47.61, 2 players) 3:club:
River: ($47.61, 2 players) T:spade:
SB shows 4:club: A:club: A
Q:club: (Flush, Ace High)Hero shows K
7:diamond: 8 8:diamond: (Full House, Eights full of Threes)Hero wins $45.61
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Comments
But can I ask you why you're just calling on the button with AAxx but raising under the gun with 88xx? You got your head on backwards there son.
Hand one, you got it all in PF, so I can't sass.... that's how you should do - but re-raising is how you should have gotten there.
Hand two, that's a fold in that position.
Mark
Sorry I had three but must have pasted one twice instead of copying the new one. I will look for more later.
Now for hand one the call was because the table had been crazy aggressive pre and I figured that I could get it in after someone raised or see a flop and re-evaluate then as I didn't want to put myself in a semi-committed conundrum.
Hand 2 I was running over the table after the flop as they were folding to 85% of my c-bets as such I was playng anlmost anything at that point. Now I am not saying that it is right to do but it was my reason for the pre-flop raise
-Steve
Hand #2 is screaming for a cheap flop . . . if you're going to FORCE me to play it. Unless you put a gun to my head, that is an UTG fold EVERY time. Other than a set, what were you hoping to hit? The answer is NOTHING, because beyond the 8's that is what you have. Gonesville . . .
See bolded above.
you must not play alot of omaha
double suited is +EV and a raise every time
hes double suited, suited connectors, and a pair. its a premium starting hand
You must not play a lot of omaha.
Double suited to the non nuts is suicide and asking for coolers. A mid pair is asking to get set over set coolered, and connected cards like 78 can make the nut straight only 3/4 times, and that's if the board doesn't suit up or pair. Straight flushes are still ridiculously rare.
Mark
Lol, you sound like one of the noobs at my local pokerclub playing $500-$2000 pots at 1/1 omaha over and over again cause they don't have a clue what they're doing but are insanely confident in their abilities to play. Juiciest games around if you're rolled for them
So . . . are you playing the Omaha side of the WSPC event in August? Please?
Pretty please?
How bout this hand.
PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
SB: $35.49
Hero (BB): $14.92
UTG: $4.62
MP: $13.14
CO: $5.91
BTN: $9.95
SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has K:spade: A
fold, fold, CO calls $0.10, fold, SB raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.00, fold, SB raises to $3.10, Hero calls $2.10
Flop: ($6.30, 2 players) K
SB checks, Hero bets $2.15, SB raises to $4.30, Hero raises to $11.82 and is all-in, fold
Hero wins $14.18
Decided to flat the 4-bet pre as I figured my hand neede to hit to win here but had lots of potential and the pot odds seemed decent.
On the flop I was hoping he had a smaller flush and would pay off. maybe should've flat called his raise and let him bet out the turn but was worried that he may have a set of kings and if the board paired I would have to let go of the pot making all-in my best chioce here I think
1.) You give him the chance to barrell turn
2.) Better chance of getting called by weaker holdings
His min-raise screams super strength, or super weakness (as you have the nuts, have to assume it means the latter), if he had KK, he's likely betting out flop, or check potting to get the chips in.
Sometimes in this spot, I'll even check the turn if it's checked to me..........just about always you'll get check called, or bluffed into on the river.
What do you know about the beautiful 4 carded game donk.
I don't like the three bet pre-flop with AK88.
Mark
what about 7878?
Suited?
Mark
No No you need one of each suit in your hand so you can always flop some flush cards
Red cards are more likely to get a straight because the paint is stickier.... black cards get flushes more often because the paint is HEAVIER.
Geez.
Mark
PokerStars Game #64226191014: Tournament #411730780, $1.35+$0.15 USD Omaha Pot Limit - Level I (15/30) - 2011/07/06 15:28:55 ET
Table '411730780 1' 10-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Evarella0707 (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: 74 Gnome (1500 in chips)
Seat 3: avtobar (1500 in chips)
Seat 4: Julian M700 (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: Jugulatus (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: bakkenist (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: ilya der777 (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: Kayman326 (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: Lbj all in (1500 in chips)
Seat 10: MABRO2121 (1500 in chips)
74 Gnome: posts small blind 15
avtobar: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jugulatus [Th Tc Kh Ac]
Julian M700: calls 30
Jugulatus: raises 105 to 135
bakkenist: folds
ilya der777: raises 345 to 480
Kayman326: folds
Lbj all in: folds
MABRO2121: folds
Evarella0707: folds
74 Gnome: folds
avtobar: folds
Julian M700: folds
Julian M700 is sitting out
Jugulatus: raises 1020 to 1500 and is all-in
ilya der777: calls 1020 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [5s Qd Qc]
*** TURN *** [5s Qd Qc] [7s]
*** RIVER *** [5s Qd Qc 7s] [4h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Jugulatus: shows [Th Tc Kh Ac] (two pair, Queens and Tens)
ilya der777: shows [9s 9h 3d Qh] (three of a kind, Queens)
ilya der777 collected 3075 from pot
Jugulatus finished the tournament in 10th place
This is all the explanation you need.
Thanks! Glad to see the old hands sharing their experience with the the newer members on this board. Much appreciated.
Would you go all in with TT in a normal SNG first hand? What about Ak if you were 50% sure that your opponent had KK?
Mark
So, you're saying I should have folded or flat-called the PL re-raise?
I can see that, perhaps I over-estimated the value of the double-suited nut and second-nut flush draws?
Well, it depends...
Since this is the first hand, you have no reads, and no information aside from your cards to work on. Pocket tens is your strength in this hand, but with all four cards connecting, and suiting up, that is a very diverse hand.
In this case, yea, some jackass called you with crap and hit. In this case, I'm not sure what I would do in a vacuum. I'd assume that your hand is better than average.
Mark
PokerStars - $0.25 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
UTG: $51.21
MP: $58.80
CO: $9.65
Hero (BTN): $54.34
SB: $8.43
BB: $29.76
SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A
fold, fold, CO raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, fold, fold
Flop: ($2.05, 2 players) J
CO bets $1.96, Hero calls $1.96
Turn: ($5.97, 2 players) Q
CO bets $5.70, Hero raises to $11.40, CO calls $1.14 and is all-in
River: ($19.65, 2 players) 9
CO shows A:diamond: 2:club: 2
Hero shows A
Hero wins $18.77
This one is easy to explain. Top set on relatively safe board (scared of diamonds but figured even then I am ahead/ even money) Shove and pray.
PokerStars - $0.25 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
SB: $52.16
BB: $70.70
UTG: $21.91
Hero (MP): $30.01
CO: $25.00
BTN: $25.00
SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 5:club: Q
UTG raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, fold, fold, fold, fold
Flop: ($2.05, 2 players) T:spade: K:diamond: 4:diamond:
UTG bets $1.96, Hero raises to $7.84, UTG raises to $21.06 and is all-in, Hero calls $13.22
Turn: ($44.17, 2 players) 7
River: ($44.17, 2 players) 6:club:
UTG shows A
Hero shows 5:club: Q
Hero wins $42.18